Watch: Conversation between Barbara Bray and Kate Mayne.

"In my everyday job I was seeing these massive disconnects between what we were seeing on the ground and what the science was telling us."

"We (farmers) all have knowledge inside that we can bring that is really quite important. Sometimes it can help science, sometimes it might fly in the face of science, but it's been massively undervalued. I think if we can start listening, and harvesting that information, we could make a huge difference and really push some progress."

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